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Activating the Creation Process in Your Life
by Marnie Pehrson
Tuesday, October 19, 2004

 

 

18:37:53 [marniep] Did you get a chance to listen to the recorded call?

18:38:11 [MICHELLEGO] Thanks for doing this!

18:38:18 [MICHELLEGO] Yes I did

18:38:20 [marniep] Hi Michelle!

18:43:20 Dreamwords enters this room

18:43:33 [marniep] Hi Dreamwords!

18:44:17 [marniep] So Michelle, did anything new hit you this time?

18:44:24 [Dreamwords] Hello, Lori here from Fairhope, Alabama (on the Fl/Al Gulf Coast)

18:44:43 [marniep] Hi Lori! Thanks for stopping in

18:44:53 [marniep] Have you had a chance to listen to the telephone call?

18:45:21 [MICHELLEGO] Mostly, to continue to speak the truths that I know to be true and not get discouraged by what I see, etc

18:45:21 [Dreamwords] Yes, I listened to both of them.

18:45:40 [marniep] Great Michelle!

18:45:51 [marniep] Did you have any questions/thoughts on the calls, Lori?

18:46:21 [Dreamwords] I just sent off an email to you so some of this might be repeated....

18:46:30 [marniep] oh ok

18:46:35 [Dreamwords] My dh and I are going through a rough time and I was saying, "Oh, we have such

18:46:50 [Dreamwords] bad luck, so much bad luck." And more bad things kept happening...

18:47:12 [Dreamwords] dh got an eye swollen shut from poison ivy, baby got diarrhea, tire popped, etc.

18:47:54 [Dreamwords] Listening to the conference has changed my thinking this week and I've been more positive yesterday and today.

18:48:17 [MICHELLEGO] Awesome!

18:48:34 [Dreamwords] So I really thank you for your conference and the effort it must have taken to do it. Even if my "luck" doesn't change, I still feel better because of this more

18:48:36 [marniep] Great! I just read your email. Ivan too - eh?

18:48:39 [Dreamwords] positive outlook on life.

18:48:51 [marniep] I'm glad it's helping!

18:48:53 [Dreamwords] (and dh and I got along a LOT better today than we have all week!!! lol)

18:49:46 [marniep] These tools really make a difference... it just takes some practice to consciously control your thoughts. I definitely don't have it mastered yet.

18:49:50 [Dreamwords] Oh, yes, and Hurricane Ivan -- there have been so many things. The greatest blow is dh lost his job 7-1/2 weeks ago.

18:50:07 [marniep] But when I do focus on the positive I can tell a huge difference in the results in my life.

18:50:52 [marniep] As a friend of mine says, when everything starts to hit you, get excited cause something fantastic is just around the corner.

18:50:54 [Dreamwords] Did I interrupt your earlier talk? I just said so much at once!

18:51:17 [marniep] no, that's fine!

18:51:32 [MICHELLEGO] No, No! That's just fine!

18:51:59 [MICHELLEGO] Sounds like you've been bombarded with alot of attacks

18:52:17 [Dreamwords] In a way, all of this "bad" is good, because it gives me empathy for others.

18:52:39 [Dreamwords] Well, there have been attacks, but then there are so many blessings, too, like the children (we have 4) are healthy, etc.

18:52:55 [MICHELLEGO] It's a good time to put into practice some of the principles from the calls

18:53:15 [MICHELLEGO] Right!

18:53:48 [marniep] Within every negative situation, there's an equal and opposite good. If something's a little bad there's a little good inside it. If it's catastrophic, there's something fantastic inside it.

18:54:21 [MICHELLEGO] Yeah!

18:54:26 [marniep] My husband lost his job about 15 years ago and when he got a new one, he made about half what he did before. As a result, I started a home business... one thing led to the other and I've developed friendships, talents and all kinds of things that I never would have, had he not lost that job.

18:54:55 [marniep] I am extremely grateful that it all happened the way it did, because I feel truly blessed in ways that money will never be able to buy.

18:55:21 [MICHELLEGO] Romans 8:28

18:55:46 [marniep] exactly! You never know... God could be adjusting your path to take you somewhere fantastic.

18:56:02 Dreamword enters this room

18:56:44 [Dreamword] I'm really in this room twice -- got logged off and it wouldn't let me in as Dreamwords again -- lol

18:56:59 [marniep] no problem. 

18:57:13 [MICHELLEGO] LOL, I wondered

18:57:48 [marniep] I've taught this class a lot to people in my business and I don't always get as "scriptural" with it, so it's really been fun to be "cut loose" 

18:58:16 [MICHELLEGO] Ha Ha

18:58:20 [marniep] What did you think of the Romans 8 part of the call? Did that make sense?

19:00:04 Lori enters this room

19:00:24 [marniep] The main thing that really struck me as I was preparing this class was that these "laws" are a natural "next step" for you when you start trying to live your divine destiny.

19:00:28 [MICHELLEGO] Sorry, went to get a drink

19:00:40 [Lori] Ok, logged off and on, now I'm here under my real name (Dreamwords was the other)

19:00:54 [marniep] 

19:01:22 [MICHELLEGO] Yeah

19:01:47 [marniep] Back in 2001 I wrote "10 Steps to Fulfilling Your Divine Destiny" and then shortly thereafter, I met Leslie Householder and she started teaching me the laws. I can see now that the Lord was saying, "Here, this is what I want you to do" and then Leslie came along and taught me "how"

19:02:19 [MICHELLEGO] That is so Cool!

19:02:52 [marniep] I think I got a little sidetracked after I learned the laws and forgot the reason he wanted me to learn them... I started experimenting and went through sort of a learning/experimentation phase. And now I feel like He's taking me back and saying... ok, REMEMBER your destiny? That's what I want you

19:02:54 [Lori] I've felt called to be a writer since I was a little girl....put it on hold when I pursued the wrong major in college, then to be just a mother for several years..now that I have all that more under control, I'm feeling a VERY strong call to go back to writing. I want to help others, particularly

19:02:57 [marniep] to apply these laws to.

19:03:18 [Lori] mothers of little ones. I'm trying to use what you're saying in this conference because I TRULY feel that God is the one leading me.

19:04:20 [marniep] Then run with it Lori! Just start writing... that's what I did. I wrote an article a week about 4 years straight

19:04:32 [marniep] and eventually it led into books

19:04:54 [marniep] and then the Lord started opening doors for me....

19:05:56 [Lori] I am not afraid of failure, maybe a little afraid of success, but mostly I hold back because I feel so unworthy of giving advice to anyone. Why would I think that I know so much that I could help someone else? Why would I reckon myself so highly?

19:06:23 [marniep] Satan talking

19:06:25 [Lori] I think I hold back God when I say those things.

19:06:36 [marniep] I know his rhetoric oh so well! 

19:06:43 [marniep] yep

19:06:43 [Lori] Wow, what you said went up at the same time I said that.

19:06:44 [MICHELLEGO] You Do!

19:07:16 [Lori] What do you mean by "his rhetoric"?

19:07:43 [marniep] oh, Satan's lines he throws us.... "you're not good enough. you don't have the talent. you aren't an expert. God can't use you."

19:08:07 [marniep] He's trying to keep you from living true to your mission.

19:08:31 [Lori] Yes, I hear those. Along with, "If you can't even keep the house perfectly straight, how could you help someone?"

19:08:53 [marniep] God never tells you that you can't or that you're not good enough. He inspires you and lifts you to higher ground and lets you know you're SOMEBODY special in His eyes.

19:09:04 [Lori] Or, "If your children don't obey you, how do you expect to teach someone else about children?

19:09:18 [marniep] LOL oh, my word, if keeping a house clean was a criteria for helping people, I may as well just go hide in a hole!

19:09:36 [MICHELLEGO] Me too!

19:09:58 [Lori] LOL

19:10:23 [Lori] I do always feel that I can help someone after I "get it together" first.

19:10:36 [Lori] That time never comes. 

19:10:47 [marniep] If you feel like you have something to say, just say it - write about it. Don't wait until you have it all together to write - that's the adversary again.

19:11:12 [marniep] People learn from your challenges and your mistakes... document them along the way. That's what I do and that's what people want to hear.

19:11:25 [Lori] Do the laws need to be done step by step - in order? How should they be started?

19:11:46 [MICHELLEGO] God uses each of us to impart His wisdom and His truths. We are just the vessel

19:11:46 [marniep] simultaneously. They all work together.

19:12:10 [marniep] That's very true Michelle.

19:12:17 [Lori] I love to read those things, too. That's why a trial like we are in now is not all bad...I can help someone else who will go through it in the future.

19:12:33 [Lori] You're right, Michelle.

19:12:35 [marniep] See the piece you may have mastered, Lori, could be the exact piece I'm missing. It doesn't matter if you have it "all together" - none of us do!

19:13:09 [marniep] document your way through it Lori and then you'll look back and learn so much from your own experience. We forget so much if it's not written down.

19:13:37 [marniep] Plus writing helps you activate the creative process... it helps you see things and tune into inspiration that you may not see, feel, or hear anyway else.

19:13:42 [Lori] How do you start with the laws without becoming overwhelmed by doing them all at once? (I don't' even know what the others are, or how many there are).

19:14:11 [Lori] I journal every day and learn so much from my own journals from years ago.

19:14:18 [marniep] there are 7 and they work together. They are more a way of "being" than "steps"

19:14:36 [marniep] that's great Lori!

19:15:18 [marniep] I used to keep a journal every day, but I'm not good at that anymore. So now my articles are almost like a spiritual journal of sorts. I can look back at an article and remember what happened that triggered the article and the "lesson" from it remains.

19:15:35 [marniep] I also keep a gratitude journal where I write down the things I'm grateful for and the things I'm grateful for ahead of time.

19:16:00 [Lori] When you found out what God wanted you to do, how did you start? I already know I should write, I journal, but I don't know in what direction He would lead me (although I'm positive it's not in fiction!! I'm really bad at that! )

19:16:42 [marniep] have you tried writing any articles? You could write some and put them up on SheLovesGod

19:17:25 [marniep] 10 Steps to Fulfilling Your Divine Destiny is basically a collection of articles that I wove together and added to to create that book.

19:17:43 [marniep] I could see a pattern in what the Lord was teaching me over a 2 year period and it distilled into those 10 steps.

19:18:19 [marniep] maybe something similar would work for you? But maybe not... pray about it. Tell the Lord you want to write and ask him for the words and then sit down and just start writing... let it flow and see what He gives you.

19:19:23 [marniep] To answer your question earlier about when I found out what God wanted me to do, how did I start?

19:19:32 [MICHELLEGO] I'm already excited to read your first article, Lori!

19:20:00 [marniep] I really didn't know what God wanted me to do. I just took it day by day and then woke up and saw where he'd led me.... and went "Wow, is this what You had in mind all along?"

19:20:14 [marniep] Just let Him lead you day by day and He'll take you where you need to go.

19:21:12 [marniep] when you start to catch a glimpse of the "big picture" - document it... because it comes in "flickers" that often disappear when the adversary strikes.

19:21:41 [marniep] Once you feel inspired with a "big picture" hold it in your mind, spend time visualizing and contemplating it. Be grateful for it ahead of time and express that gratitude in your prayers and in your journal.

19:22:53 [marniep] what about you, michelle? Have you gotten a glimpse of your "big picture?"

19:23:41 [MICHELLEGO] Yes, it has to do with working with youth

19:23:54 [marniep] cool

19:24:05 [marniep] do you do that at your church now?

19:24:51 [MICHELLEGO] Yes, and I was a cheerleading coach while my girls were in school

19:25:16 [MICHELLEGO] That's where my heart is, with the kids

19:25:19 [marniep] great

19:25:39 [marniep] do you have something specific you'd like to do with youth?

19:25:50 [marniep] have you got a picture in your head of what you want?

19:26:04 LoriS enters this room

19:26:22 [MICHELLEGO] I am a worshiper and I love to find kids who also have that in them

19:26:56 [marniep] and then how do you encourage them?

19:27:04 [MICHELLEGO] Not very clear yet

19:27:38 [LoriS] (just me again -- problems this evening)

19:27:51 [marniep] sorry it's giving you trouble Lori!

19:28:03 [marniep] Leslie had me spend literally as many hours as i could for a week envisioning my "dream" and then had me write it down in detail in the form of a long gratitude statement.

19:28:06 [MICHELLEGO] To use the creativity God has given them to worship Him

19:28:41 [marniep] So things like music or art?

19:28:41 [LoriS] Does the gratitude and the gratitude journal really help that much? Why do you suppose?

19:29:00 [marniep] It helps IMMENSELY... and I'll explain why

19:29:27 [MICHELLEGO] Yeah, music, art, mime, etc

19:29:29 [marniep] It increases your faith... it raises your belief and your hope to a higher level - a level at which God has something to work with.

19:29:59 [marniep] you can't write and repeat that you are so happy and grateful that you have a particular blessing and not come to believe that it is on its way to you.

19:30:17 [marniep] You aren't convincing God by using a gratitude statement - you're convincing yourself.

19:30:32 [MICHELLEGO] Right

19:30:35 [LoriS] So you could, say, be grateful for being debt free before it happens?

19:30:41 [marniep] it's yourself that has the problem... not God. God knows anything is possible. It's us that needs the convincing.

19:30:57 [marniep] most certainly, and I'd avoid using the word debt in your gratitude statement.

19:31:11 [MICHELLEGO] Gotta go, Marnie

19:31:13 [LoriS] Any reason?

19:31:31 [MICHELLEGO] Got an appt

19:31:38 [LoriS] Thanks for coming, Michelle!

19:31:45 [marniep] Rather say something like "I am so happy and grateful that we are now financially free. All our obligations are met easily and on time. I'm excited thrilled and amazed to see these things happening in ways that are for the highest good for us and all concerned."

19:31:49 [MICHELLEGO] Lori, and God Bless You!

19:31:52 [marniep] Goodnight Michelle! Thanks for coming!

19:32:08 [marniep] Take care and keep me posted on how you're feeling -ok- michelle!

19:32:10 MICHELLEGO exits from this room

19:32:51 [LoriS] lol...my "any reason?" was supposed to be for your avoiding "debt" not for her leaving!

19:32:58 [marniep] I'll be having a whole class on gratitude on Thursday that'll get into it a bunch more.

19:33:15 [marniep] By using the term debt, you're focusing on something you don't want.

19:33:20 [LoriS] Do you feel manipulative saying thank you when it hasn't happened?

19:33:34 [LoriS] Okay -- I'll be sure to listen Thursday!!

19:33:48 [marniep] Nope, not if I have a confirmation that my course is in harmony with God's will.

19:34:17 [marniep] Seek a confirmation first... then after that you know He's promised it. The trick is raising your faith to a level that will allow Him to create the miracle in your life.

19:34:24 [LoriS] I don't want to keep you . But could you give me a place to begin on this journey? What should I do first?

19:35:07 [marniep] Figure out "what" you want... really think about it, try to visualize what you want from life ... what it would look like, feel like, sound like.

19:35:32 [marniep] Envision it, write it down in vivid detail and then ask the Lord if this is what He wants for you.

19:35:37 [LoriS] I have that... then what?

19:36:04 [LoriS] I know what He wants, too. I've spent the last 7 weeks seeking Him and His will.

19:36:06 [marniep] Do you have a confirmation from the Lord that that vision is what He wants for you?

19:36:12 [marniep] Fantastic!

19:36:28 [LoriS] Yes, I'm positive.

19:36:43 [marniep] Ok, then, take that vision and condense it down to something that will fit on an index card...

19:36:55 [LoriS] It's the starting that is so scary.

19:37:03 [marniep] Read that card as many times as you can the first day - 100 times out loud if you can.

19:37:05 [LoriS] Okay...

19:37:22 [LoriS] Okay.

19:37:30 [marniep] Then read it each day morning and night and carry it in your pocket so that every time you touch it, it reminds you of your vision.

19:37:47 [marniep] Pray each day what the Lord would have you do to accomplish your mission and act upon any prompting you receive.

19:37:54 [LoriS] Good.

19:38:03 [marniep] Any ideas that come to you as you read your statement, jot those down as you're reading them.

19:38:26 [marniep] Act upon any prompting you receive... no matter how seemingly insignificant.

19:38:32 [marniep] And you'll be on your way...

19:38:34 [LoriS] That sounds like a plan! I like having something to do instead of just "waiting."

19:38:49 [marniep] 

19:39:03 [marniep] be sure to write your index card in the present tense... "I am so happy and grateful now that"

19:39:19 [marniep] And end it with a statement that insures that the adversary can't stick his nose into it.

19:39:41 [marniep] "I am so excited, thrilled and amazed that all these things are happening in ways that are for the highest good for me and all concerned."

19:39:54 [marniep] or something to that effect...whatever feels comfortable to you in that verbage.

19:40:27 [LoriS] Like, "I am happy and grateful now that I am a published writer. I thank You that my words are able to reach other young mothers to help them know You and to help them manage their homes and families." LIke that?

19:40:34 [marniep] keep me posted... I'd love to hear how it goes for you!

19:40:49 [marniep] sounds great

19:40:50 [LoriS] That felt funny to write what isn't true! 

19:41:07 [LoriS] Thank you so much for your help. You're a great blessing and I am so glad you listened to God calling you

19:41:15 [LoriS] into your ministry.

19:41:32 [marniep] oh, shucks. 

19:41:37 [marniep] glad it helped.

19:41:44 [marniep] one other thing I might mention...

19:41:59 [marniep] It does feel funny at first reading that in the present tense and that's why you read it 100 times. Also be sure to date it for the date you want to accomplish your goal.

19:42:07 [LoriS] Yes, please do. I'm not in a rush.

19:42:29 [LoriS] Oh, okay. So I'll get used to it.

19:42:55 [marniep] As you read the statement notice how your body feels

19:43:33 [marniep] If you start to get a headache, feel tired, sleepy, irritable, etc... start taking note of what "feels" wrong in your statement and rework it until those feelings go away ... until you feel positive and excited about the statement.

19:43:41 [LoriS] How will it feel? Or why would I notice that?

19:44:47 [marniep] Well, I've done this before and set goals for things and they gave me a headache by about 25 repetitions... so I noticed the parts that made me uncomfortable, tweaked them and kept reading the rest of the way through... tweaking as I went through the 100 repetitions until I got something I felt good about.

19:44:58 [LoriS] Yes, okay. I'm very excited to start this. I just KNOW ...that God has something for me in the very near future. He has been working on me since 2000 very heavily.

19:45:23 [marniep] You want your subconscious to be on board with your goal and it sends you signals through your body in the form of feelings. Listen to it.

19:45:41 [marniep] Just a tweak in the wording can put your subconscious mind on board with your vision.

19:45:50 [LoriS] Do you do this for many things, or just one main thing in your life?

19:45:58 [marniep] Fantastic! I can't wait to hear how it all turns out for you!

19:46:18 [marniep] I use this a lot... I practice it... sort of like building up my faith muscles in small things.

19:46:42 [marniep] I've used it when my car broke down and I needed it fixed for a less than a certain amount.

19:47:07 [LoriS] I'll keep in touch. I still haven't explored your site all that I would like to . I just found it!

19:47:09 [marniep] Any time I hit a snag or trouble in life, I get specific about what I want to have happen ... seek a confirmation and then start being grateful for it.

19:47:22 [marniep] I'm glad you did!

19:47:29 [marniep] Thanks for stopping by!

19:47:30 [LoriS] Does this work with prayer -- is it a type of prayer?

19:49:14 [marniep] I don't really use a gratitude statement - per se - as a prayer, but I do try to express sincere gratitude in my prayers so that they are more than a whine-fest or a gimme gripe session. But I don't repeat prayers like this. The gratitude statement is more for raising my own level of faith

19:49:30 [marniep] I have a gratitude blog that I'm writing now that might interest you

19:49:36 [marniep] http://marniep.typepad.com 

19:49:40 [marniep] read from the bottom up. It's new so there's not a lot of stuff there.

19:49:59 [LoriS] Thanks for the blog! I LOVE blogs! Thank you for doing all of the work that is involved in this conference. I appreciate your time so much. God bless!

19:50:44 [marniep] Thank you! God bless you too, Lori! I'm expecting to hear great things from you!
19:53:14 [LoriS] I can't tell you how much I appreciate your time tonight....Goodnight!

19:54:07 [marniep] you're most welcome! Goodnight!



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