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"We are not women of the world. We are women of God. And women of
God will be among the greatest heroines of the 21st century." - Sheri L. Dew
"We are not women of the world. We are women of God. And women of God will be among the greatest heroines of the 21st century." - Sheri L. Dew |
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 Count it All Joy by Marnie Pehrson Friday October 22, 2004
10:08:35 [marniep] So Amy have you listened to the call yet? 10:08:50 [Amy] No Been busy with Momma!!! 10:09:04 [marniep] having a bad day? 10:09:23 michelle enters this room 10:09:40 [Amy] Just a bit .... confused 10:09:43 [marniep] Hi Michelle! Well we have a regular FPG reunion going on here. 10:10:09 [Amy] Hi Michelle! 10:10:14 [maryann] group hug 10:10:23 [Amy] lol 10:10:23 [marniep] LOL 10:10:45 [michelle] Hi everyone! 10:10:51 [marniep] Well, today's topic is about "Count it All Joy" - the Law of Polarity and Relativity 10:11:06 [marniep] I came at Relativity differently than I normally do in this call. 10:11:20 [marniep] Michelle have you listened yet? 10:11:41 [michelle] Yes, just did 10:11:48 [marniep] Any questions? 10:11:51 [marniep] comments? 10:11:58 [marniep] direction you'd like to take the conversation? 10:12:14 [maryann] how does the call relate to the chat? are the topics connected. I didn't hear the call yet today either 10:12:30 [michelle] I loved it as with all of them 10:12:52 [marniep] I generally answer questions about the call... the topic covered in it. Or really any questions you have on any of the laws are welcome here. 10:13:03 [marniep] anything new stick out at you, Michelle? 10:13:20 Lori enters this room 10:13:36 [marniep] Hi Lori! My you were up late last night! 10:14:08 [michelle] I think the most important thing we can come away with this is to be able to see the good in the overwhelmingly bad circumstances 10:14:08 [Amy] Lori> Hi Lori, Thanks for the email!! 10:14:30 [maryann] gotta check out that call =) 10:14:43 [maryann] based on michelles comment 10:14:43 [marniep] Lori have you listened yet? 10:15:00 [marniep] yes, you're right Michelle. 10:15:11 [michelle] Hey, Maryann, what call 10:15:19 [marniep] Yep, Mary Ann that's why I told you you might want to listen to this one. 10:15:44 [maryann] michelle said to see the good was the gist of this call [todays] 10:15:47 [Amy] Sound just like what I've been searching for the scriptural basis of , the last couple weeks !? 10:16:02 [marniep] I don't look at my trials like I used to after learning this law... not to say I'm always positive (far from it) but when I gather my wits about me after a good whine, I start to see the good. 10:16:09 [marniep] YES, it is Amy!! 10:16:14 [marniep] At least I think it is. 10:16:32 [maryann] yah, i whine a little too. 10:16:41 [maryann] sigh 10:16:56 [marniep] Back in April when my 5-year-old went through that scary ordeal with the massive seizer 10:17:01 [marniep] seizure. 10:17:27 [michelle] I whine too, but I can usually regroup and refocus 10:17:28 [marniep] After the initial shock/scare/cry, I was able to step back and see all the little miracles in that situation - while I was in it - instead of afterwards. 10:17:46 [maryann] wow 10:17:52 [marniep] It used to take me a while after the experience to be able to see those things. 10:18:13 [marniep] It was really an amazing experience. 10:18:42 [marniep] He had the seizure at my mother's house... while he was staying with her. She called and told me he had a seizure and to meet her at the hospital. 10:18:58 [marniep] I really expected that he had some kind of episode that was over and that they would just run some tests and that would be it. 10:19:03 [michelle] I think the older we get we can look back and see that God is in control in every situation, which makes us able to trust Him in the midst of a crisis. 10:19:06 [marniep] I felt good, at peace as I drove to the hospital. 10:19:39 [marniep] When I got in there, he was having a massive seizure, his eyes rolled back in his head, and he stopped being able to breath. 10:19:59 [marniep] I was just flipping out as you can imagine. My brother-in-law took off work to go to the hospital with my mother so he was there. 10:20:20 [marniep] He just stood and let me cry on his shoulder and he quickly gave Nate a blessing (prayer of healing) 10:20:41 [marniep] And they sent me out cause they had to put the tubes down his nose so he could breathe 10:21:01 [marniep] I remember standing just out the room praying, "Please surround him with angels... please send angels to take care of him." 10:21:10 [marniep] I was thinking spiritual angels.. you know guardian angels. 10:21:28 [maryann] aww.. 10:21:34 [marniep] But the rest of the stay, there were just these incredible people - and people we knew who just happened to be at the right place at the right time like angels surrounding him. 10:21:40 [michelle] And you know He did 10:21:52 [marniep] I know! 10:22:07 [marniep] My niece just happened to be next door to take care of Elijah (3yo) 10:22:16 [michelle] I love divine appointments! 10:22:17 [marniep] She watched him for me. My mother and brother-in-law were there. 10:22:27 [marniep] yes! 10:22:31 [maryann] another angel.. 10:22:39 [marniep] My husband was off in the mountains unreachable by cell phone with our older 2 boys 10:22:55 [marniep] Then, within about 30 minutes of getting there, our minister showed up. 10:23:14 [marniep] Then when I went back in the room where they had him, his respiratory therapist was an old friend - a former bishop of ours. 10:23:38 [michelle] Cool!! 10:23:46 [marniep] Our bishop and my nephew hiked up into the mountains to find Greg and the boys and he got there like at 1:00 am 10:24:03 [marniep] My parents' best friends came and sat with me.. as did my mom and dad. 10:24:10 [marniep] The doctors and nurses were just fantastic. 10:24:34 [marniep] And... to top it off... I don't know where it came from... but on Nate's table beside his bed, someone left him of all things a pewter ANGEL 10:24:53 [marniep] I still carry it in my purse. 10:24:55 [michelle] So Cool! 10:24:57 [maryann] goosebumps going on here.. 10:25:17 [michelle] Me too! 10:25:20 [marniep] And he's never had a problem since. 10:25:33 [marniep] nothing wrong with him... no one knows what happened. 10:25:50 [michelle] Wow, That's great! 10:25:56 [marniep] But he's a different child now. He was extremely reserved and quiet before the seizure and now he's much more talkative and outgoing. 10:26:23 [michelle] My 27 year lod son has grand waul siezures and it is not a pretty site 10:26:28 [marniep] I keep thinking that he needed whatever happened to him to happen. Maybe his life will require that he not be so inhibited. 10:26:51 [michelle] Whoops , my spelling is very bad on that last sentence 10:26:52 [marniep] no, it's terrifying... that's what Nate had... about 3 of them in a series 10:27:14 [maryann] yeah, like an adjustment - and it looked scary but the good outweighed the apparent bad.. 10:27:37 [michelle] About 3 months ago, Ryan started having them around 10:30 at night 10:27:57 [Amy] DId you find out why? 10:27:57 [michelle] He kept having them into the next day 10:28:00 [marniep] yes.. I think so. He's a bit more difficult for me to handle now...he was an angelic child who rarely said or did anything much. He's a little more rambunctious now... but that's ok 10:28:31 [michelle] y put him in ICU and I was pretty freaked out but God's peace was with me through it all 10:28:35 [marniep] wow 10:28:38 Lori enters this room 10:28:56 [marniep] does he have epilepsy? 10:29:16 [michelle] I guess 10:29:38 [michelle] He just started having these about 6 years ago 10:29:39 [marniep] has he always had them? 10:30:23 [Amy] Are there specific sxcriptures you lean on in these circumstances? 10:30:24 [michelle] He takes dilantin and he's out working with his constuction crew! 10:30:44 [marniep] wow 10:31:00 [Amy] amazing 10:31:09 [michelle] Thou will keep him in perfect peace,whose mind is stayed on thee 10:31:34 [marniep] "all things work together for good...." Romans 8:28 10:31:39 [michelle] I go directly to my Fathers arms in those times 10:31:45 [marniep] Be still and know that I am God 10:31:50 [michelle] Yes 10:32:41 [marniep] so does anyone else have a story to share of when something bad happened that actually turned out to be good in the end? 10:32:52 [maryann] i do 10:33:02 [michelle] Ryan struggles with his walk with the Lord and when he had that last episode in ICU I told God He could have him if he (Ryan) was waiting there for me when I got there 10:34:52 [marniep] go ahead... 10:35:10 [maryann] almost feels like the seizure type event is also a personal struggle like with ryan, who was already inside struggling with relationship with God 10:35:25 [maryann] i was running like a chicken with head cut off 10:35:40 [maryann] decided to pick up some wings to get dinner on quicker 10:36:02 [maryann] as i came out the door with the to go order, i feel down like 8 steps 10:36:12 [maryann] onto a concrete slab 10:36:21 [Amy] ouch 10:36:26 [michelle] OWW! 10:36:31 [marniep] ouch! 10:36:55 [maryann] i hit my head full impact and had severe seizures, in front of the restaurant, then blacked out 10:37:06 [maryann] i was covered with lemonade 10:37:10 [maryann] lol 10:37:13 [marniep] wow 10:37:15 [Amy] oh, wow 10:37:20 [michelle] OMGOSH!! 10:37:45 [maryann] when i came to - there were all kinds of people standing around me - like they were about to cry [touching] 10:37:57 [maryann] they wouldn't leave til the ambulance came 10:38:20 [maryann] the paramedic came and asked me questions. i flunked the test. i had amnesia 10:38:34 [maryann] didn't remember anything, but was so scared 10:39:07 [maryann] as we drove in the ambulance....i tried to quiet myself...wondered if i had kids, or anything, no memory 10:39:39 [maryann] when i closed my eyes trying to be calm, i heard in my own voice the words to the song: A Child's Prayer 10:39:39 [marniep] good grief!! 10:40:01 [michelle] So, you remeber having no memory? 10:40:07 [maryann] "Heavenly Father...are you really there, and do you hear and answer every child's prayer.... 10:40:25 [michelle] Wow 10:40:44 [maryann] Then I remembered my youngest daughter Beverly [i'd tried to learn that song, to sing with her weeks before] 10:41:00 [michelle] Cool! 10:41:11 [maryann] i remember the paramedic asking me what day, year, month, kids, and not knowing the answers 10:41:33 [maryann] once i remembered the song, and beverly, then my memory came back 10:41:50 [marniep] how cool 10:41:51 [michelle] Awesome! 10:41:58 [marniep] when did this happen? 10:42:15 [Lori] The Bible says that when you cannot pray, the Holy Spirit will pray for you. Maybe He did that for you when you couldn't! 10:42:17 [maryann] i knew that at a level deeper than my mind, God was there, inside, closer than my thought 10:42:25 [maryann] like 3 years ago 10:42:41 [michelle] Amen! 10:43:01 [marniep] Another Romans 8 verse. 10:43:10 [maryann] yeah, cuz i didn't remember verses or couldn't make up something to think about - my regular mental strategies were gone 10:43:10 [Amy] WOW !!! 10:43:18 [maryann] i have to tell this 10:43:19 [Lori] Thanks -- I forgot the reference! 10:43:40 [maryann] when i got to the hospital and the doctor put me on a guery 10:44:03 [maryann] guerney and then left for a minute [we were on the way to the cat scan] 10:44:22 [maryann] i heard a cooing sound like a mom at a baby 10:44:33 [maryann] looked around and no one matched that sound 10:44:48 [maryann] then i felt someone by the bed holding my foot 10:45:06 [maryann] i asked david if someone was holding my foot - big mistake 10:45:16 [maryann] grumpy - he goes NO! 10:45:26 [maryann] i felt that was a comforting angel 10:45:43 [Lori] I bet it was. 10:45:45 [michelle] Wow! He loves us so, so much! 10:46:01 [maryann] thats the story the bad that was all so good, for my faith and beilef that God is closer than what seems to be happening 10:46:03 [michelle] Blows me away everytime 10:46:39 [maryann] i remember that a lot when things get overwhelming 10:46:44 [marniep] Thanks Mary Ann for sharing that!! 10:47:03 [michelle] Yeah, Thanks! 10:47:23 [marniep] Anybody else want to share something? 10:47:27 [maryann] welcome - plus i don't have epilipsy - the convulsions were due to the trauma 10:47:49 [michelle] So, nothing lingering? 10:47:52 [Lori] And have you stopped rushing so much? I've learned that one -- everyone makes plans for next week and then something may occur, like Hurricane Ivan in our case, which makes the planning be unimportant. All the planning and worrying didn't matter -- even the post office was closed for a week! 10:47:54 [marniep] it's good that you don't have them anymore! 10:48:04 [michelle] That's great 10:48:48 [maryann] okay, yes the hurricanes made us sit still and try to be ready for anything for weeks and weeks 10:49:10 [maryann] we still have some plywood - might be one more hurricane 10:49:17 [michelle] I was praying for all of you effected by them!] 10:49:23 [Lori] Surgeries were halted, businesses were closed, taxes weren't due, even mortgages aren't due. Worrying doesn't help anything. 10:49:55 [maryann] when it's like that - you just don't make real bold plans - since the lights are going off and trees flying in a day or two ..... LOL 10:50:02 [michelle] Worrying only feeds the enemies' fire 10:50:33 [maryann] being ready, and prepared is good for the attitude too 10:50:50 [maryann] then you did all you can, so you are calmer 10:51:40 [michelle] When you've done all you can, then you STAND! 10:51:41 [Lori] The hurricane had good in it, as destructive as it was. It pruned the trees so now it looks like Spring, neighbors were kind to each other, families spent time together without the distractions of t.v./computer/electronics. 10:51:48 [maryann] thanks for praying michelle and others....i just felt prayers from all over 10:52:02 [michelle] Cool! 10:52:03 [maryann] exactly lori 10:52:18 [Lori] Even money is better now - our insurance claim helped us out and others are helped by theirs, etc. 10:53:35 [Amy] You all have such wonderful attitudes! Such an example for me!! 10:53:56 [maryann] same feelings here 10:54:43 [Lori] I think it's usually easier to go through something than to imagine it. We stayed through Ivan and it was easier on us than on my parents who were watching it on tv from California. 10:54:51 [maryann] husband thinks i should try to cook meals even if it's late....saves us a LOT of money over picking up some wings. LOL 10:55:15 [Lori] LoL, Maryann! 10:55:16 [michelle] Bye and THanks! 10:56:59 [marniep] Well, does anyone else have anything to add before we wrap this up? 10:57:09 [maryann] now this is my kind of chat room 10:57:18 [Lori] Marnie, I liked the Law of Relativity today. I used to have a hard time with that one. 10:57:19 [marniep] :) 10:57:32 [marniep] comparing yourself to others? 10:57:41 [Amy] I just need to listen to that recorded call !! 10:57:58 [Lori] We lived in a tiny house that was very basic. It seemed that EVERYONE had a nicer place. It wasn't until I learned contentment in that house 10:58:08 [marniep] yes you do, Amy... get that phone to your ear, girl! LOL 10:58:15 [maryann] hey i wanted the blue grinny one, not the shooter 10:58:15 [Lori] that God provided a way for us to move. Just as I was finally liking the old house and seeing the best in it! LOL 10:59:14 [Amy] I'm still having problems knowing when to be content and when to ask 10:59:21 [marniep] I keep telling my kids that the Lord isn't going to give us something nicer until we start taking care of what we have 10:59:37 [Lori] I didn't even want to have anyone over -- there houses were always nicer, newer -- but God also put hospitality on my heart. That was hard when I didn't like my house! FINALLY I learned to be content with it -- it took years!! 11:00:01 [Lori] Yes, Marnie, I think that is true! 11:00:35 [maryann] people feel welcome in your house - more because you are warm and loving - they remember how they FEEL when they are over, not so much how big or nice it is ! 11:01:00 [marniep] good point, Mary Ann 11:01:20 [Lori] I finally learned that! It was still difficult. It's much easier to be hospitable when we're not rubbing elbows. 11:01:48 [marniep] 11:02:18 [Lori] I also liked the example of Joseph -- going through something catastrophic but with a good attitude. 11:02:19 [Amy] I think I fear becoming materialistic. How do you 11:02:38 [Amy] sorry ... still thinkgin didn't mean to hit send !!! < embarassed> 11:03:03 [maryann] lol 11:03:33 [marniep] Amy...operative word "fear"... who instigates that emotion? 11:03:51 [maryann] i know i know 11:04:05 [Amy] ok ... so I''m doing Satan's work by doubting, right?. 11:04:15 [maryann] >raises hand enthusiastically.. 11:04:21 [Lori] False Evidence Appearing Real -- I wrote it down today. 11:04:36 [Amy] oh that's neat !! 11:04:38 [marniep] yes, you have such a diabolical mind, Amy. LOL 11:04:47 [maryann] yeah, good one 11:04:51 [Amy] LOL 11:04:57 [marniep] Yep, got that from Leslie... not sure where she got it from. 11:06:05 [marniep] Mary Ann, I see your hand... please speak. 11:06:50 [maryann] wanted to say WHO inspired the fearful thoughts, didn't get it typed quick enough! 11:07:20 [Amy] lol ... we're all on the same wavelength now!!! 11:07:42 [marniep] 11:07:48 [maryann] just have to replace thoughts of doubt with asking in faith. 11:08:04 [maryann] nothing wavering [no doubt] 11:08:09 [Amy] <should have said same vibration> 11:08:43 [marniep] You know I think the hardest part of all this is figuring out what you really want. 11:09:14 [Amy] If youre doubting how do you ask in faith ... just make a conscious decision to it? 11:09:48 [marniep] After spending almost 2 years learning all this stuff, I just realized in the last couple months that I really didn't have a clear picture of "what" I wanted. If you don't know what you want, you can't ask for it. 11:10:06 [maryann] just today, i was thinking.....i want too much and overwhelmed myself, or either don't have confidence in God to pull it all off - or especially in myself to do my part of getting what i want 11:10:19 [marniep] use these laws to bolster your faith. Ask - get a confirmation and once your confirmation from God is there... you have all these laws that tell you that it's yours. 11:10:36 [Lori] Amy, I don't really know that either, but when my dh lost his job 8 weeks ago, I had a very hard time with it for about a week, then out of desperation I said, "Lord, I dont' feel trust right now, but I CHOOSE to trust you." It really has helped. I'm not even worried anymore, even though here we 11:10:50 [Lori] are, 8 weeks later w/ no income and 4 little ones. 11:11:33 [maryann] i know i have to do acts of faith, but sometimes don't know what those would be...and my desires involve others....so im not sure how to go toward my prayers, and desires 11:11:37 [Amy] Oh, Honey .... I'll add my prayers 11:11:55 [Lori] I had gone to a seminar once in which the speaker said she CHOSE to forgive her father. It was eye-opening to me that I didn't need to feel it first -- I could CHOOSE it. 11:12:10 [maryann] always seem to be waiting! 11:12:23 [marniep] Mary Ann... spend some time visualizing the kind of life you want... how would it look, feel. What would happen in your perfect family life? Spend time visualizing it so that you can believe it. 11:12:35 [maryann] lori, you can ask him to "help thou my unbelief", that really works 11:12:40 [marniep] God wants better things for you. The hardest part for you is being able to even fathom or picture things being better. 11:13:11 [maryann] thanks marnie - get out the journal and blow the dust off of it, and practice some more ... 11:13:14 [marniep] Great point Lori! 11:13:23 [marniep] 11:13:23 [Amy] lol me too!! 11:13:29 [Amy] GREAT REMINDER!! 11:13:37 [marniep] Read last night's chat with Leslie... just a sec... I'll get the URL 11:13:43 [Lori] Maryann, I want too much, too, and feel overwhelmed often. My difficulty is in prioritizing -- figuring out what God would have me do first. 11:13:50 [maryann] i know it's hard, with so much contradictory evidence around, [big piles] 11:14:07 [marniep] http://www.shelovesgod.com/chat/vibration2004.cfm 11:14:21 [maryann] lory - great about CHOOSING - so what if we don't quite "feel" it yet.. 11:15:02 [maryann] thanks for link marnie, it's invisible to me unless i hover the mouse over it! 11:15:16 [marniep] I don't think that you want too much... I think you are thinking big and you're hitting a "terror barrier" because your subconscious is still saying that you're in this old world and you've fed it a new idea that contradicts it. 11:15:22 [marniep] Thus you feel overwhelmed 11:15:43 [marniep] mary ann, right click and copy it then paste it into a new window 11:15:51 [Lori] Oh, then that's exciting, because Leslie said last night that if you feel the terror barrier, then you are very close to getting it. 11:16:16 [maryann] ouch !! terror barrier. That's exactly it. Hug Marnie. 11:16:23 [marniep] Exactly!! 11:16:43 [marniep] Hug to you, Mary Ann! 11:16:51 [maryann] we need reminders here and there! I so remember that class. 11:17:13 [Amy] Hugs to all oof you !! I've learned alot from you ladies today!! 11:17:15 [marniep] spend more time visualizing what you want until your "imaginary" world starts to feel real to you 11:18:41 [Lori] I need to head out. Baby's nap is over and we are driving over to FL to pick up hurricane debris at our rental there. 11:18:49 [Lori] (we live across the border in AL) 11:19:20 [marniep] Thanks for coming today everyone! Nice to end the conference on a good chat! 11:19:25 [Lori] Thanks so much to Marnie and Leslie for the conference!! It was my first time -- I learned a million things and can't want to start using the new knowledge. 11:19:52 [marniep] Glad you enjoyed it, Lori! Feel free to email any time! 11:20:04 [Lori] Thanks! Bye! 11:20:06 [Amy] Thanks to you all! Hope to meet up again!! 11:20:10 [maryann] take care lori 11:20:32 [marniep] Keep me posted on your results everyone! |
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